Comments on: AMD Ryzen 8000G Processors Launched for the AI PC Era https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/ Server and Workstation Reviews Tue, 09 Jan 2024 18:32:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: C Jackson https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/#comment-514407 Tue, 09 Jan 2024 18:32:19 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=75306#comment-514407 How do we quantify the performance difference between parts with and without NPU?
I find it hard to evaluate the value to consumer with the information currently available.

]]> By: Goof https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/#comment-514227 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:46:42 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=75306#comment-514227 PRO also supports these three things:

* DASH. Think Intel vPro IPMI. Only Ryzen PRO SKUs support DASH, otherwise you need a dedicated BMC (whereas DASH can just use an onboard NIC that supports DASH).

* PRO SKUs have multiple memory protection and isolation features straight from EPYC. No non-PRO Ryzen SKUs support those features.

* Last is offering the GE variants. These are super-binned chips, similar to Intel’s T and TE variants. Yes, you can run an X or G in “Eco mode” or a lower TDP, but you will not get the same performance per watt as a GE. A Ryzen 7 PRO 5750GE, in my testing, had 90-92% of the 5700Xs normal performance (not “Eco mode”) at a package power of just 39W, despite still having to power iGPU cores as well!

The PRO SKUs have a market. They’re not for everyone, but theres a reason recyclers/disassemblers and boutique shops like Quiet PC sell them — there’s actual demand for them, and some folks are willing to pay for them. It’s a shame they’re a pain to get.

]]> By: stanos4 https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/#comment-514211 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 20:33:53 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=75306#comment-514211 Well, amd’s website says that all 4 8000g support ecc, yaaay, hopefully they wont change the specs as they did with mobile and perhaps even (some of the) previous apu gen. I guess i will wait a bit, but ilooks like i’m going to sell the am4 hp 705 with pro cpu and ship back 32gb of ecc to amazon and buy am5 with either 8600 or 8700 :D

What is interesting, tomshw speaks abou pcie 5 support, but amd’s spec page says pcie 4.0 only

Also, 8500g and 8300g are spec’d to have only 10 pcie lanes

]]> By: Eric Olson https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/#comment-514205 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 19:50:49 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=75306#comment-514205 I thought all the Ryzen 7000 and 8000 processors supported real (system or sideband) ECC memory in addition to the mandatory ECC in DDR5 that appears on die.

I know PRO means more than ECC RAM. What features of the AMD PRO line are missing from the 7000 and 8000 series?

]]> By: Goof https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ryzen-8000g-processors-launched-for-the-ai-pc-era/#comment-514177 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:37:29 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=75306#comment-514177 Homelabbers now impatiently waiting for the Ryzen PRO variants of these, in particular something like a Ryzen 7 PRO 8750GE. ;)

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