Comments on: A Reminder That Geekbench 6 is NOT for Big CPUs https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/ Server and Workstation Reviews Mon, 04 Nov 2024 17:10:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Patrick Harris https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-589745 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 17:10:15 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-589745 Thanks for the reminder! It’s crucial to pick benchmarks that align with a CPU’s architecture. Geekbench 6 may work well for mobile or low-core systems, but for larger setups, a more scalable tool is needed to get accurate performance insights.

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By: Jeff Geerling https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-589490 Fri, 01 Nov 2024 17:33:36 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-589490 Just confirming what you wrote, I just compared Geekbench 5 and 6 on the AmpereOne A192-32X, and the results are staggeringly different, with the Geekbench 6 run not even using 1/3 the system’s normal power draw when maxing out the CPU for multicore operations. See: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/52#issuecomment-2452250408

It’d be nice if there was a ‘Geekbench of the servers’ though, it’s nice to have a round number as a *general/relative* comparison that is easily indexed, and has clients for all kinds of different devices/architectures. Not as many runs are shared for the server benchmarks we see on Phoronix, STH, etc.

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By: gyr https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-588124 Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:11:47 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-588124 Why don’t you use passmark?

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By: Jerem https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-587041 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 16:18:44 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-587041 @Eric

Most of these servers are going to be used as hosts for a hypervisor. Therefore you are basically only limited on parallel work by your physical core counts. These 128 core CPUs aren’t going to be used for a SQL DB in a physical appliance. However, using Geekbench 6 is akin to doing that. Instead a better way to view it would be to have 10 VMs with 24 vCPUs (12 physical cores) running Geekbench 6 benchmarks on each VM but having them staggered as you almost never are running higher than 50% CPU utilization at any given time. Sure your VM Geekbench score won’t be as high as say a Ryzen 7900X but all 10 of them will look A LOT different than it would as a single 128 core appliance.

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By: Stefan https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-587022 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 08:24:22 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-587022 Just wondering if the tiled approach would get interesting results for Geekbench 6 as well?

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By: Eric Olson https://www.servethehome.com/a-reminder-that-geekbench-6-is-not-for-big-cpus/#comment-587015 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 01:20:21 +0000 https://www.servethehome.com/?p=81303#comment-587015 The trade-off noted when Seymour Cray asked, “If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?” is today reflected by the comparison of more efficiency cores versus fewer performance cores. Could the cloud be more like a chicken farm than compute-optimised HPC?

Amdahl’s Law limits strong scaling, Gustafson’s Law provides for weak scaling and some tasks are just not parallel. Does lack of scaling in Geekbench 6 result from hardware with catastrophically bottlenecked memory bandwidth or from the limits of strong scaling?

In my experience thrashing the shared L3 cache plays a huge role when scaling embarrassingly parallel but memory intensive tasks on current generation Xeon and Epyc hardware. Therefore, I find performance comparisons to be especially important in contexts where the observed parallel scaling is less than perfect.

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